{"id":2661,"date":"2026-04-25T01:17:00","date_gmt":"2026-04-24T22:17:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jungianstudiesistanbul.com\/?p=2661"},"modified":"2026-04-25T01:18:09","modified_gmt":"2026-04-24T22:18:09","slug":"c-g-jung-bilincdisinin-derinliklerine-inis-ve-ayrismanin-esigi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jungianstudiesistanbul.com\/en\/c-g-jung-bilincdisinin-derinliklerine-inis-ve-ayrismanin-esigi\/","title":{"rendered":"C.G. Jung: Bilin\u00e7d\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131n Derinliklerine \u0130ni\u015f ve Ayr\u0131\u015fman\u0131n E\u015fi\u011fi"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>1909 y\u0131l\u0131na gelindi\u011finde, 33 ya\u015f\u0131ndaki Carl Gustav Jung, b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde Sigmund Freud ad\u0131na y\u00fcr\u00fctt\u00fc\u011f\u00fc \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar sayesinde, Z\u00fcrih\u2019te Freud\u2019un Viyana\u2019daki \u00fcn\u00fcne benzer bir tan\u0131n\u0131rl\u0131\u011fa ula\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ne var ki, artan bu \u015f\u00f6hretin tad\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7\u0131karabilecek bir ruhsal s\u00fck\u00fbnetten yoksundu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yazmak, ders vermek, hastalar\u0131 tedavi etmek ve bir Freudyen \u00e7evre organize etmek\u2014ki bir \u00f6nceki y\u0131l Salzburg\u2019da ilk Psikanalitik Kongre\u2019yi d\u00fczenlemi\u015fti\u2014onun iyimserli\u011fi \u00fczerinde y\u0131prat\u0131c\u0131 bir etki yarat\u0131yordu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Evlilik sorunlar\u0131n\u0131n do\u011fas\u0131 tam olarak a\u00e7\u0131k de\u011fildir; ancak muhtemelen Jung\u2019un kar\u015f\u0131 cinse duyarl\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131yla ili\u015fkiliydi. Kad\u0131nlar onu son derece \u00e7ekici buluyor ve \u00e7ok say\u0131da kad\u0131n hasta ona \u00e2\u015f\u0131k oluyordu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>E\u011fer Jung\u2019un bu kad\u0131nlara kar\u015f\u0131 ilgisiz kald\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan emin olabilseydi, bu durum muhtemelen Emma\u2019y\u0131 rahats\u0131z etmeyecekti. Ancak Jung, 1907\u2019de \u0130talya\u2019ya yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir seyahat s\u0131ras\u0131nda \u00e7ekici bir Yahudi kad\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 yo\u011fun bir \u015fekilde tutulmu\u015ftu\u2014ve g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fc\u015fe g\u00f6re bu deneyimi Freud\u2019a da itiraf etmi\u015fti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bir di\u011fer hasta, yirmi ya\u015f\u0131ndaki Rus bir kad\u0131n olan Sabina Spielrein, Jung\u2019dan \u00e7ocu\u011funun babas\u0131 olmas\u0131n\u0131 istemi\u015fti ve Jung\u2019un bu fikre kap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 anla\u015f\u0131lmaktad\u0131r. Neyse ki, kendi ifadesiyle \u201cbu zevkten kendini mahrum b\u0131rakm\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u201d; zira gen\u00e7 kad\u0131n son derece sahiplenici \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung, onu d\u0131\u015fk\u0131 obsesyonu nedeniyle tedavi ediyordu; bu durum a\u015f\u0131r\u0131 mast\u00fcrbasyona ve normal bir cinsel ili\u015fki kuramamaya yol a\u00e7\u0131yordu. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla Jung\u2019un onunla yak\u0131nla\u015fma e\u011filimi, belki de tedavi edici bir ama\u00e7 ta\u015f\u0131yan \u201cki\u015fisel olmayan\u201d bir motivasyon olarak da yorumlanabilir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Her h\u00e2l\u00fck\u00e2rda, bu ayartmaya direnmi\u015f olmas\u0131 onun i\u00e7in bir \u015fans olmu\u015ftur; \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc Spielrein, Z\u00fcrih\u2019te Jung\u2019un sevgilisi oldu\u011funu iddia etmeye ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Jung ise Spielrein\u2019in annesine hi\u00e7bir zaman onunla cinsel ili\u015fkiye girmedi\u011fini garanti edebilmi\u015f ve dedikodular\u0131n son bulmas\u0131 i\u00e7in yard\u0131m istemi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung, bu durumun tamamen hastas\u0131n\u0131n hatas\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve kendisinin de k\u0131smen sorumlu oldu\u011funu Freud\u2019a a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a kabul edecek kadar d\u00fcr\u00fcstt\u00fc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mart 1909\u2019da Jung ve e\u015fi Emma, Freud\u2019u Viyana\u2019da ziyaret etti ve burada \u201ckitapl\u0131ktaki poltergeist\u201d olarak bilinen \u00fcnl\u00fc olay ger\u00e7ekle\u015fti. Freud, \u201cok\u00fclt\u201d fenomenler s\u00f6z konusu oldu\u011funda tam bir \u015f\u00fcpheciydi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1909\u2019a gelindi\u011finde, psi\u015fik ara\u015ft\u0131rmalarla ciddi bi\u00e7imde ilgilenenler i\u00e7in, nesneleri f\u0131rlatan ruhlar olarak tan\u0131mlanan poltergeist fenomenlerinin genellikle duygusal olarak rahats\u0131z ergenlerle ili\u015fkili oldu\u011fu anla\u015f\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Bu durum, s\u00f6z konusu olaylar\u0131n ergenin bilin\u00e7d\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131n bir t\u00fcr d\u0131\u015favurumu\u2014bir ba\u015fka deyi\u015fle i\u00e7sel \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n d\u0131\u015fsalla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131\u2014olabilece\u011fi teorisini do\u011furmu\u015ftu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fe inan\u0131yor ve bu t\u00fcr olaylar\u0131 \u201cd\u0131\u015fsalla\u015ft\u0131rma fenomenleri\u201d olarak adland\u0131r\u0131yordu. Freud ile Jung paranormalin ger\u00e7ekli\u011fi \u00fczerine tart\u0131\u015f\u0131rken, kitapl\u0131ktan aniden y\u00fcksek bir patlama sesi geldi ve ikisi de irkildi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201c\u0130\u015fte!\u201d dedi Jung, \u201cBu bir d\u0131\u015fsalla\u015ft\u0131rma fenomenine \u00f6rnektir.\u201d<br>\u201cSa\u00e7mal\u0131k!\u201d dedi Freud.<br>\u201cHay\u0131r,\u201d dedi Jung, \u201cve bunu kan\u0131tlamak i\u00e7in \u015fimdi bir an i\u00e7inde bir tane daha olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 \u00f6ng\u00f6r\u00fcyorum.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bunu s\u00f6yler s\u00f6ylemez kitapl\u0131ktan ikinci bir patlama daha duyuldu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Freud\u2019un daha sonra Jung\u2019a yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir mektuptan anla\u015f\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00fczere, bu olay onu en az\u0131ndan k\u0131smen etkilemi\u015fti. Ancak sonras\u0131nda benzer sesleri birka\u00e7 kez daha duymu\u015f ve bunlar\u0131n do\u011fal bir nedeni oldu\u011fu sonucuna varm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung ise tart\u0131\u015fma s\u0131ras\u0131nda diyafram\u0131n\u0131n \u0131s\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 hissetti\u011fi i\u00e7in bu olay\u0131 kendisinin yaratt\u0131\u011f\u0131na inan\u0131yordu. Freudcu yorumcular ise bu seslerin yaln\u0131zca kitapl\u0131\u011f\u0131n ah\u015fab\u0131n\u0131n kurumas\u0131ndan kaynakland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ileri s\u00fcrm\u00fc\u015flerdir. Bug\u00fcn ger\u00e7ekte ne oldu\u011fu bilinemez.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung\u2019un Z\u00fcrih\u2019teki mesleki ya\u015fam\u0131 da arzu etti\u011fi kadar sorunsuz ilerlemiyordu. Eugen Bleuler Freud\u2019un teorilerinin \u00e7o\u011funu kabul etmi\u015f olsa da, Jung\u2019a kar\u015f\u0131 sessiz \u00e7ekinceler ta\u015f\u0131yor gibi g\u00f6r\u00fcnmekteydi ve akademik bir g\u00f6reve atanmas\u0131 s\u00f6z konusu oldu\u011funda iki kez onu g\u00f6z ard\u0131 etmi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ancak Jung\u2019un Amerika\u2019daki Clark \u00dcniversitesi\u2019ne davet edilmesi bu hayal k\u0131r\u0131kl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 telafi eden bir geli\u015fme olmu\u015ftur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung\u2019un otobiyografisinde bu durumu anlat\u0131rken kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131 ifade dikkat \u00e7ekici bir safl\u0131k i\u00e7erir: Clark \u00dcniversitesi\u2019nde \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131\u015f\u0131m deneyleri \u00fczerine ders vermeye davet edildi\u011fini belirtir ve Freud\u2019un da \u201cba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z olarak\u201d davet edildi\u011fini s\u00f6yler. Oysa ger\u00e7ekte \u00f6nce Freud davet edilmi\u015f, Jung ise b\u00fcy\u00fck olas\u0131l\u0131kla Freudyen olarak tan\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bu Amerika yolculu\u011fu, Jung ile Freud aras\u0131ndaki ili\u015fkinin d\u00f6n\u00fcm noktas\u0131 olacak ve Jung\u2019un kendi analitik psikolojisinin temellerini ke\u015ffetmesiyle \u00f6rt\u00fc\u015fecektir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bu s\u00fcre\u00e7 bir r\u00fcya ile ba\u015flar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung, kendisini yabanc\u0131 bir evde bulur. \u00dcst kat rokoko tarz\u0131nda d\u00f6\u015fenmi\u015ftir. Alt kata indi\u011finde ortam\u0131n daha eski oldu\u011funu fark eder; orta\u00e7a\u011f tarz\u0131 mobilyalar ve k\u0131rm\u0131z\u0131 tu\u011fla zeminler vard\u0131r. Daha sonra bodruma a\u00e7\u0131lan a\u011f\u0131r bir kap\u0131 bulur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Burada kendisini Roma d\u00f6nemine ait tonozlu bir odada bulur. Zemindeki ta\u015f bir levhada bir halka ke\u015ffeder; halkay\u0131 \u00e7ekti\u011finde levha a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131r ve dar bir merdiven ortaya \u00e7\u0131kar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A\u015fa\u011f\u0131 indi\u011finde kayaya oyulmu\u015f al\u00e7ak bir ma\u011faraya ula\u015f\u0131r. Zemin toz, kemikler ve k\u0131r\u0131k \u00e7anak \u00e7\u00f6mleklerle kapl\u0131d\u0131r. Ayr\u0131ca iki eski insan kafatas\u0131 vard\u0131r. Tam bu noktada uyan\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Freud ile Jung, Amerika yolculu\u011funda birbirlerinin r\u00fcyalar\u0131n\u0131 analiz ederek zaman ge\u00e7irmektedirler. Freud, bu r\u00fcyadaki iki kafatas\u0131na \u00f6zellikle ilgi duyar ve bunlar\u0131n Jung\u2019un iki ki\u015finin \u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc arzulad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6sterdi\u011fini iddia eder.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung bu yorumu sa\u00e7ma bulur; ancak Freud\u2019u tatmin etmek i\u00e7in kafataslar\u0131n\u0131n kar\u0131s\u0131na ve bald\u0131z\u0131na ait olabilece\u011fini s\u00f6yler.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung\u2019un bu noktada Freud\u2019a yalan s\u00f6yleme ihtiyac\u0131 hissetmesi, onun tutumunda derin bir de\u011fi\u015fime i\u015faret eder. Bu, Freud\u2019u art\u0131k ho\u015f g\u00f6r\u00fclmesi gereken bir otorite fig\u00fcr\u00fc olarak g\u00f6rmeye ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6sterir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung\u2019a g\u00f6re bu k\u0131r\u0131lma, Freud\u2019un kendi r\u00fcyas\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131rken Jung\u2019un yorum i\u00e7in daha fazla ki\u015fisel bilgi istemesi \u00fczerine Freud\u2019un \u201cotoritemi riske atamam\u201d demesiyle ger\u00e7ekle\u015fmi\u015ftir. Jung\u2019a g\u00f6re Freud o anda otoritesini tamamen yitirmi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung i\u00e7in bu r\u00fcya bir \u00f6l\u00fcm arzusu de\u011fil, <strong>insan psi\u015fesinin yap\u0131sal bir diyagram\u0131d\u0131r<\/strong>. Ona g\u00f6re bu r\u00fcya, psi\u015fenin alt\u0131nda yatan ki\u015fisel olmayan bir yap\u0131y\u0131 ima etmektedir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bu yorum tart\u0131\u015fmal\u0131 olsa da, r\u00fcyan\u0131n Jung\u2019un ya\u015fam amac\u0131n\u0131\u2014zihnin derinliklerine inme arzusunu\u2014yans\u0131tt\u0131\u011f\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131kt\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Baz\u0131 insanlar y\u00fckselme r\u00fcyalar\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcrken, Jung\u2019un y\u00f6nelimi tersinedir: o, y\u00fczeyin karma\u015fas\u0131ndan uzakla\u015farak psi\u015fenin derin katmanlar\u0131na inmeyi arzulayan romantik bir fig\u00fcrd\u00fcr.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bu r\u00fcya ayn\u0131 zamanda onun daha sonra geli\u015ftirece\u011fi <strong>kolektif bilin\u00e7d\u0131\u015f\u0131<\/strong> kavram\u0131n\u0131n ilk sezgisel form\u00fclasyonlar\u0131ndan biridir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1909 y\u0131l\u0131 itibar\u0131yla Jung\u2019un temel sorunu, Freud\u2019dan giderek daha fazla uzakla\u015fmas\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Freud\u2019un cinsellik merkezli yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 Jung\u2019a giderek daha dar ve indirgemeci g\u00f6r\u00fcnmeye ba\u015flar. Jung\u2019un ilgisi mitolojiye, tarihe ve sembolik d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnceye y\u00f6nelir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Freud ise bu ilgiyi, mitlerin de nevrozlar gibi ayn\u0131 \u201ccinsel \u00e7ekirdek kompleks\u201d etraf\u0131nda \u00f6rg\u00fctlendi\u011fi fikriyle yorumlamaktad\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oysa Jung i\u00e7in mitoloji yaln\u0131zca patolojik bir ifade de\u011fil; psi\u015fenin arketipsel, tarihsel ve kolektif boyutlar\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa \u00e7\u0131karan bir aland\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bu farkl\u0131la\u015fma, analitik psikolojinin do\u011fu\u015funa zemin haz\u0131rlayan temel k\u0131r\u0131lmad\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Wilson, C. (t.y.). <em>C.G. Jung: Lord of the Underworld<\/em> (s. 44\u201348).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>1909 y\u0131l\u0131na gelindi\u011finde, 33 ya\u015f\u0131ndaki Carl Gustav Jung, b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde Sigmund Freud&hellip;<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2662,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[43,45,78,8,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2661","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-arketipler-ve-kolektif-bilincdisi","category-carl-jung","category-jung-ve-ruya-analizleri","category-mitoloji-din-ve-psikoloji","category-tum-blog"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>C.G. 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