{"id":2650,"date":"2026-02-26T03:41:22","date_gmt":"2026-02-26T00:41:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jungianstudiesistanbul.com\/?p=2650"},"modified":"2026-02-26T03:41:26","modified_gmt":"2026-02-26T00:41:26","slug":"roportaj-lance-owens-sonu-shamdasani","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jungianstudiesistanbul.com\/en\/roportaj-lance-owens-sonu-shamdasani\/","title":{"rendered":"R\u00d6PORTAJ: Lance Owens &amp; Sonu Shamdasani"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>C. G. Jung\u2019un Eserlerinin Ele\u015ftirel Bask\u0131s\u0131\u2019n\u0131n (Critical Edition of the Works of C. G. Jung) yak\u0131nda yay\u0131mlanaca\u011f\u0131 duyurusu \u00fczerine \u2014 ki bu, Sonu\u2019nun onlarca y\u0131ld\u0131r ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirmeyi umut etti\u011fi bir projeydi \u2014 kendisiyle ileti\u015fime ge\u00e7tim. Uzun y\u0131llard\u0131r birbirimizi tan\u0131yoruz ve bir s\u00f6yle\u015fi yapmay\u0131 kabul etti. 17 Temmuz 2024\u2019te kaydedilen konu\u015fmam\u0131z a\u015fa\u011f\u0131dad\u0131r. \u0130\u00e7erik bak\u0131m\u0131ndan hafif\u00e7e d\u00fczenlenmi\u015ftir. A\u015fa\u011f\u0131da okuyacaklar\u0131n\u0131z, bir tarih\u00e7inin ve onun yolculu\u011funun hik\u00e2yesidir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lance Owens:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Mart 2024\u2019\u00fcn ilk haftas\u0131nda Princeton University Press\u2019ten, C. G. Jung\u2019un t\u00fcm eserlerinin yeni, \u00e7ok ciltli bir ele\u015ftirel bask\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n yay\u0131mlanaca\u011f\u0131na ili\u015fkin b\u00fcy\u00fck bir duyuru ald\u0131m. Bu projenin en az yirmi y\u0131ld\u0131r zihninizde oldu\u011funu biliyordum. B\u00f6ylesine devasa, karma\u015f\u0131k ve pahal\u0131 bir projenin asla ger\u00e7ekle\u015fmeyece\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcm. Fakat art\u0131k ger\u00e7ekle\u015fiyor. Neler yap\u0131l\u0131yor?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Sonu Shamdasani:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Bu proje, Jung\u2019un eserlerinin ele\u015ftirel bir bask\u0131s\u0131 olacak. Bu, mevcut <em>Toplu Eserler<\/em>\u2019de (Collected Works) yer alan her \u015feyi, ayr\u0131ca bu eserlerin i\u00e7eri\u011fi sabitlendikten sonra g\u00fcn y\u00fcz\u00fcne \u00e7\u0131kan yay\u0131mlanmam\u0131\u015f metinleri de kapsayaca\u011f\u0131 anlam\u0131na geliyor. Bu malzemeler yeni bir \u00e7eviriyle ve tam bir bilimsel ayg\u0131tla (<em>full scholarly apparatus<\/em>) sunulacak. Her cildin yakla\u015f\u0131k %35\u2019i; kapsaml\u0131 bir giri\u015f, ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 kronoloji ve mektupla\u015fmalar ile di\u011fer yay\u0131mlanmam\u0131\u015f belgelerden hareketle haz\u0131rlanm\u0131\u015f referanslardan olu\u015facak. Proje 16 ila 20 y\u0131l s\u00fcrecek ve 26 ciltle tamamlanacak.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Toplu Eserler\u2019i ilk okudu\u011fumda Jung\u2019un hangi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesini ne zaman s\u00f6yledi\u011fini ya da yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlamakta zorlan\u0131yordum. Metinler tematik kategorilere g\u00f6re da\u011f\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 fakat kronolojik bir izlek yoktu. Metinlerin farkl\u0131 versiyonlar\u0131 vard\u0131. \u0130lk hali neydi? Sonraki de\u011fi\u015fiklikler nelerdi? \u015eimdi siz t\u00fcm bunlar\u0131 sistematik olarak bir araya getiriyorsunuz. Bu kapsamda ba\u015fka bir akademik proje biliyor musunuz?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Princeton University Press\u2019te iki proje daha var ki \u00f6l\u00e7ek bak\u0131m\u0131ndan daha da b\u00fcy\u00fck: Thomas Jefferson belgeleri projesi ve Einstein\u2019\u0131n eserleri. Bu proje onlar\u0131n yan\u0131na konumlan\u0131yor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Thomas Jefferson, Albert Einstein ve C. G. Jung\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>(Evet, g\u00fcl\u00fcyor.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Bug\u00fcn as\u0131l ilgilendi\u011fim \u015fey sizin tarih\u00e7i olarak yolculu\u011funuz. Jung ile yirmili ya\u015flar\u0131n\u0131zdan beri u\u011fra\u015f\u0131yorsunuz. Bu noktaya nas\u0131l geldiniz?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Blake\u2019in \u015fu s\u00f6zleri akl\u0131ma geliyor: \u201cAptal ki\u015fi aptall\u0131\u011f\u0131nda \u0131srar ederse\u2026\u201d<br>Kap\u0131lar\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131p kapanmas\u0131, Jung tarihi \u00fczerine ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z olarak y\u00fcr\u00fctt\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm ara\u015ft\u0131rmay\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcrmeme yol a\u00e7t\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Ba\u015flang\u0131ca d\u00f6nelim. 19 ya\u015f\u0131nda Hindistan\u2019da bir guru ararken Jung\u2019un <em>Alt\u0131n \u00c7i\u00e7e\u011fin S\u0131rr\u0131<\/em> (The Secret of the Golden Flower, 1929\/1983) kitab\u0131yla kar\u015f\u0131la\u015fman\u0131zdan s\u00f6z etmi\u015ftiniz. Bristol\u2019de felsefe okurken ne oluyordu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Psikolojiyle tan\u0131\u015fmam o d\u00f6nemde oldu. Ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7ta Jung\u2019a ve psikoterapiye ilgi duyuyordum. Fakat alan\u0131n da\u011f\u0131n\u0131k oldu\u011funu hissettim. Bunun nas\u0131l bu hale geldi\u011fini anlamak istedim. Bu da beni psikoloji tarihine g\u00f6t\u00fcrd\u00fc ve o zamandan beri oraday\u0131m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Doktora yapmaya karar verdi\u011finiz noktaya kadar dokuz y\u0131l akademi d\u0131\u015f\u0131ndayd\u0131n\u0131z.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Evet. O d\u00f6nemde resim yap\u0131yordum, sosyal hizmette \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m, ruh sa\u011fl\u0131\u011f\u0131 hastanelerinde ve \u00f6\u011frenme g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc\u011f\u00fc olan bireylerle \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Bu, beni k\u00fct\u00fcphaneden \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131p ger\u00e7ek d\u00fcnyayla bulu\u015fturdu. \u00c7ok \u00f6\u011freticiydi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Michael Fordham ile nas\u0131l tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131n\u0131z?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Frank Miller \u00fczerine \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yordum \u2014 Jung\u2019un <em>Libidonun D\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcm\u00fc<\/em> (Transformation of the Libido, 1952\/1977) metnindeki fig\u00fcr. Bu beni ar\u015fivlerin labirentine soktu ve oradan pek \u00e7\u0131kmad\u0131m. William McGuire ile temas kurdum; o da beni Fordham\u2019a y\u00f6nlendirdi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Fordham beni tren istasyonundan ald\u0131. Arabas\u0131 h\u0131zl\u0131yd\u0131; \u00f6n panelin yar\u0131s\u0131 piposunun yan\u0131k izleriyle kapl\u0131yd\u0131. Konu\u015furken yola de\u011fil size bakard\u0131. Hayatta kalacak m\u0131y\u0131m diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm o ilk bulu\u015fma, \u00f6nemli bir dostlu\u011fun ba\u015flang\u0131c\u0131 oldu. O benim mentorum oldu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Fordham\u2019\u0131n elinde ola\u011fan\u00fcst\u00fc bir ar\u015fiv vard\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Evet. <em>Toplu Eserler<\/em>\u2019in tamamlanm\u0131\u015f ve nihai oldu\u011funu san\u0131yordum. Oysa yay\u0131mlanmam\u0131\u015f metinler vard\u0131. Yay\u0131nc\u0131larla Jung miras\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131 aras\u0131nda yap\u0131lan g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmelerde yeni materyal eklenmesi engellenmi\u015fti. Bir k\u0131sm\u0131 18. ciltte (gayriresm\u00ee olarak \u201cjunk volume\u201d denen) yer ald\u0131; geri kalan\u0131 d\u0131\u015far\u0131da b\u0131rak\u0131ld\u0131. Bu benim i\u00e7in yay\u0131mlanmam\u0131\u015f materyalin ilk i\u015faretiydi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>O d\u00f6nemde ar\u015fivler eri\u015filebilir miydi?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Evet, hepsi eri\u015filebilirdi. Sorun kapal\u0131 olmalar\u0131 de\u011fil, kimsenin bakm\u0131yor olmas\u0131yd\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>1992\u2019de Jung\u2019un <em>Kundalini Yoga Seminerleri<\/em>ni (1996) d\u00fczenleme g\u00f6revi ald\u0131n\u0131z.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Evet. Bu beni 1994\u2019te Z\u00fcrich ar\u015fivlerine g\u00f6t\u00fcrd\u00fc. 1993\u2019te haz\u0131rlanm\u0131\u015f ilk Jung elyazmalar\u0131 katalo\u011funu edindim. Orada <em>Toplu Eserler<\/em>\u2019de yer almayan muazzam bir materyal vard\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Richard Noll\u2019un kitaplar\u0131na verdi\u011finiz yan\u0131t olan <em>Cult Fictions<\/em> (1998) nas\u0131l ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Noll\u2019un iddialar\u0131 tarihsel olarak temellendirilmeye muhta\u00e7t\u0131. O s\u0131rada <em>K\u0131rm\u0131z\u0131 Kitap<\/em>\u2019\u0131n (<em>Liber Novus<\/em>) transkripsiyonunu bulmu\u015ftum ve \u00fczerinde \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yordum. Bu, onun Jung portresinin yanl\u0131\u015f oldu\u011funu g\u00f6sterecek kan\u0131t sa\u011flad\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Ximena de Angulo ile nas\u0131l tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131n\u0131z?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Cary Baynes ile Jung aras\u0131ndaki mektuplar\u0131 g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcm. Cary, <em>Liber Novus<\/em>\u2019u daktilo etmi\u015fti. William McGuire bana Ximena\u2019n\u0131n hayatta oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi. Onunla 1995\u2019te tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Annesinin \u201cZ\u00fcrich papers\u201d diye etiketlenmi\u015f bir sand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 saklam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. \u0130\u00e7inden <em>K\u0131rm\u0131z\u0131 Kitap<\/em>\u2019\u0131n 1925 tarihli daktilo n\u00fcshas\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Liber Novus<\/em>\u2019u ilk okudu\u011funuzda ne hissettiniz?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Bu bir delinin say\u0131klamalar\u0131 de\u011fildi. Otomatik yaz\u0131 da de\u011fildi. Son derece s\u00fcsl\u00fc, bilin\u00e7li, teolojik ve edeb\u00ee g\u00f6ndermelerle \u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fc bir yap\u0131tt\u0131. Anlamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmay\u0131 b\u0131rakt\u0131m; i\u00e7ine girmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Her g\u00fcn birka\u00e7 sayfa \u00e7evirerek metnin d\u00fcnyas\u0131na ad\u0131m att\u0131m. Bu y\u0131llar s\u00fcrd\u00fc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><em>K\u0131rm\u0131z\u0131 Kitap<\/em> 2009\u2019da yay\u0131mland\u0131. 15 y\u0131l sonra etkisini nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriyorsunuz?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung \u00c7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc. Art\u0131k insanlar do\u011frudan <em>K\u0131rm\u0131z\u0131 Kitap<\/em> ya da <em>Black Books<\/em>\u2019a y\u00f6neliyor. Mitlerle, efsanelerle ya da hagiografilerle kar\u015f\u0131la\u015fmadan kayna\u011fa gidiyorlar. Metinler, mitlerden \u00e7ok daha zengin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeni 26 ciltlik Ele\u015ftirel Bask\u0131 bu s\u00fcreci nas\u0131l etkileyecek?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Bir disiplinin g\u00fcc\u00fc birincil literat\u00fcr\u00fcne ba\u011fl\u0131d\u0131r. Metinlerin filolojik olarak do\u011fru kurulmas\u0131 \u015fartt\u0131r. <em>Toplu Eserler<\/em>\u2019de kimi yerlerde metinler ilk yay\u0131nlarla \u00f6rt\u00fc\u015fm\u00fcyor; a\u015f\u0131r\u0131 editoryal m\u00fcdahale var. Temel filoloji tesis edilmeden sa\u011flam bir ara\u015ft\u0131rma zemini olu\u015famaz.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>\u015eu an hangi d\u00f6nem \u00fczerinde \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorsunuz?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung\u2019un 1904\u2019te Burgh\u00f6lzli\u2019deki d\u00f6nemi. Gen\u00e7 bir psikiyatrist olarak adli raporlar\u0131, vaka dosyalar\u0131n\u0131 ve yay\u0131mlad\u0131\u011f\u0131 metinleri birlikte okumak son derece zenginle\u015ftirici.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung\u2019un on binlerce yay\u0131mlanmam\u0131\u015f mektubu hakk\u0131nda ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsunuz?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">SS:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Darwin yaz\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 projesi gibi bir dijital edisyon m\u00fcmk\u00fcn. Bas\u0131l\u0131 olsa 80 cilt eder. Yap\u0131labilir; mesele ilgi ve kaynak.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">LO (kapan\u0131\u015f):<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Y\u0131llar boyunca ar\u015fivlerde y\u00fcr\u00fctt\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fcz \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma, Jung tarihini d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcrd\u00fc. Te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p>Kaynak<\/p><cite>https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/143260416\/History_and_the_Transformation_of_Jung_Interview_with_Sonu_Shamdasani_2025_<\/cite><\/blockquote><\/figure>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>C. G. 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